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  • PayPal Responds To Violin Incident

    On Wednesday we ran a story about PayPal’s latest PR problem. It seems a woman sold an antique violin worth $2500. When the buyer received it, however, there arose a dispute over the label (which is apparently not uncommon the in the violin world). When the buyer asked PayPal for a refund, they decided that the violin must be counterfeit, and ordered the buyer to destroy it in order to get his money back.

    While preparing that story, I sent a request for comment to PayPal. They got back to me with the following statement:

    While we cannot talk about this particular case due to PayPal’s privacy policy, we carefully review each case, and in general we may ask a buyer to destroy counterfeit goods if they supply signed evidence from a knowledgeable third party that the goods are indeed counterfeit. The reason why we reserve the option to ask the buyer to destroy the goods is that in many countries, including the US, it is a criminal offense to mail counterfeit goods back to a seller.

    Unfortunately, this isn’t really that much of an answer. They decline to discuss the specifics of the case, but state that signed evidence from a knowledgeable third party is required before they ask the buyer to destroy an item. According to the seller, however, the violin had already been examined before being sent, and its authenticity was confirmed. It remains unclear whether PayPal really did require the buyer to present proof from a third party before ordering the violin’s destruction. I asked PayPal’s representative in a follow-up email whether the buyer had provided the necessary evidence. I also asked what, if any, recourse the seller might have, since she has lost both the violin and the $2500 she was paid for it. As yet I have not received a response.

  • PayPal Orders Antique Violin Worth $2500 Destroyed

    Fresh off news that President Scott Thompson is heading off to be Yahoo’s new CEO, PayPal again finds itself with a bit of a PR problem today. Last month we ran a story about PayPal’s severe mishandling of Regretsy’s attempt to raise funds for needy children at Christmas. Now it seems that they’ve stepped in it again. A post on Regretsy’s blog late yesterday contained a letter from a reader who had a very interesting story to tell.

    It seems this reader, Erica, had sold a $2,500 violin (after having it authenticated by an expert). She received payment via PayPal. The buyer, however, disputed the label, which is apparently not uncommon with antique violins. When the buyer contacted PayPal, they determined that the violin must be counterfeit – how a violin could be counterfeit is unclear – and insisted that the buyer destroy it in order to get his money back. The buyer complied, sending the following picture of the splintered violin – with the disputed label displayed prominently – to Erica and to PayPal.

    Broken Violin

    Once the post went up on Regretsy, it did not take long for the situation to be picked up on Twitter and Reddit. Most people were, as you might imagine, outraged.

    Every new story I hear about @PayPal fills with RAGE RAGE RAGE. Their immorality is exceeded only by their mind-boggling lack of logic. 36 minutes ago via Twitter for Mac · powered by @socialditto

    There’s an opportunity for a paypal competitor. One with better service and that doesn’t have ppl destroying antiques. http://t.co/vnpcofBY 1 hour ago via Echofon · powered by @socialditto

    The puppy I ordered over eBay does not have the advertised race! Reported as counterfeit, PayPal asks for destruction – who am I to object? 1 hour ago via web · powered by @socialditto

    Celebrations involved destruction of entire orchestra. “@nytimes: PayPal Executive Named C.E.O. of Yahoo http://t.co/QBy3EdXn 1 hour ago via Twitter for iPhone · powered by @socialditto